Using the Space Elevator to get rid of Radioactive waste…

An idea that has been occasionally discussed is to use the space elevator to launch radioactive waste to the sun, a permanent waste disposal plan if there ever was one…

The magazine Popular Science had an article about this in 2010.   It’s been a subject of blog discussions/debates (like this one on PhysicsForum and this one on the ScienceForum).  It was even a topic during the “Shotgun Science” section of the 2013 Space Elevator Conference (I can’t remember who did that particular presentation).

German blogger Kai Malmus gives us his uniquely European thoughts on this topic here.  According to Mr. Malmus, a Commission (put into action by the German government and all opposition parties) has been empowered to find a solution within the next couple of years and then start construction by of a waste storage unit here on earth by 2032.  All of Europe, indeed all of the fission-using world, is searching for an answer to this problem.  And, anyone who has followed the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste depository saga in the USA over the past 25+ years, knows that it is a political football to end all political footballs.

Is using a Space Elevator to get rid of nuclear waste a practical idea?  I don’t think so, but not for the “usual reasons”.  People worry about the safety of the elevator but I believe we can produce an elevator lift system of very high reliability.  Payloads will all have some sort of guidance system so that if the unlikely happens, they can be safely splash-landed in the ocean.  And people worry about somehow contaminating the sun with this waste.  The sun is so enormous, that it could handle this relative paltry amount of additional matter without even noticing it.

However, “paltry amount” is, as I said, relative, and therein lies the problem, IMHO.

How much nuclear waste do we produce each year?  According to World Nuclear Association website, about 200,000 metric tons of low and intermediate levels of waste and about 10,000 metric tons of high-level nuclear waste are produced each year.  And then there is the “legacy waste problem“, hundreds of thousands of more metric tons of waste that must be dealt with somehow.

Assuming that we’re not going to see a functioning space elevator until probably at least 2035 (and I’m being optimistic here) and the fact that the initial elevator(s) aren’t going to carry more than double-digit tons of payload (and there will be multiple customers clamoring for the space elevator’s services) and the fact that the nuclear industry is continuing to produce nuclear waste, I’m afraid that this is a problem which is going to have to be solved here, on the planet, without the help of a Space Elevator.

I wish I could be more optimistic – the idea sounds grand, kind of like space-based solar power.  But when you run the numbers, then things don’t look so cheery…

Perhaps only a very tiny portion of this waste truly needs to be disposed of, then maybe.  But if that’s true, then it can probably be dealt with here and we won’t need a space elevator to get rid of it.

But I invite debate on the matter – prove me wrong!

3 thoughts on “Using the Space Elevator to get rid of Radioactive waste…

  1. Bob Munck

    This is similar to one of my proposed uses of the SE.

    My will specifies that I be cremated and, if necessary, my ashes stored until a working SE is available (I’ll be 90 in 2035). Then I’m to be taken up/down to the outer end of the ribbon and released slowly over a 24-hour period. Given the likely effect of the solar wind on ash particles, I’ll probably blanket the entire solar system, albeit very sparsely (yes, I’ve lost weight recently).

  2. kai Malmus

    hmh – long hmh

    space elevator technology is a vision – and a dream of a better functioning world – but there is a difference between vision and illusion (or as Frank Zappa said: there is a difference between kneeling down and bending over 😉

    ted and his figures are a bit sobering and somehow talk about that we alternatively could hope or work on a scientific leap to transform nuclear waste into a future battery for let’s say a forthcoming Iphone 300 S 😉 or that there are too many tons of radio waste which cannot be transported into Space and Sun for by now the SE technology is just in their babyshoes – Okay, I accept.

    The idea of keeping our radwaste on earth till our scientists find a method to turn plutonium first into mox, than in gold and then into stardust (btw – t. leary made it without SE, didn’t he?)

    I think, getting rid of radwaste is one urgent dream – and a persistent one – but the idea of bringing a SE into reality is the first step to make loads of things possible.

    so keep our fucking radwaste safe for the next 200 years – and see how SE technologies – and possible alternative radwaste applications may go

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